The Debate

Well, not the debate. But it is a good debate. Many have looked forward to this debate between the beloved Bill Nye the Science and Guy and the founder of the Creation Museum, Ken Ham. Both well educated and respected men debating whether or not creationism is a viable worldview. I will show my hand so you don’t have to guess, in case you had to guess: I side with Mr. Ham. I hold to a young earth creation taught in the book of Genesis. So, you know who I think won, of course. But listen for yourselves. Also, after you listen to the debate be sure to listen to Albert Mohler Jr.’s analysis of the debate on The Briefing. Dr. Mohler also has an insightful article on the debate,”Bill Nye’s Reasonable Man–The Central Worldview Clash of the Ham-Nye Debate“.

Bill Nye repeats again and again, that creationists should go out and find where we see one fossil travel through different layers of sediment landing where it doesn’t belong. If this happened than we can rethink evolutionary theory. Well, here you go, and it wasn’t found by creationists.

Anywho…

Ken Ham boils it down in his first five minute opening speech. Essentially, both sides are using the same evidence, but they are approaching that evidence from completely different worldviews. One from a mind and heart of faith that the Father of the Lord Jesus Christ created the universe as He said He did, and the other a naturalistic, materialistic, atheistic mind and a hardened heart. Notably, they both admitted that there is not a single thing that would change their respective minds on the issue. I beg to differ. Romans 1-3 tells us that, apart from Christ, man is irrational, actually insane. Apart from a biblical worldview, men and women don’t know how to think about the world that God created. I, like Ken Ham, and Paul, and Christ will not apologize for saying this because we believe it to be true. So, back to my point, I do think that there is something that can change the mind (and heart) of at least one debater, Bill Nye, and that one thing is the sovereign call of God, through the proclamation of the Gospel, to repentance and obedience. I applaud Ken Ham that even throughout his debate on the origin of all things, he consistently brought it back to the Gospel message. This means that Mr. Nye, the hundreds of people in the room, and the hundreds of thousands of people who watched the debate have heard the good news of Jesus Christ as Savior and King.

Enjoy the debate. The Youtube video is available below, or head over to the Answers in Genesis webpage devoted to the debate, here.

 

 

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4 comments

  1. First, a YEC view is NOT taught in Genesis. See such noted evangelical, conservative OT scholars as Gleason Archer and Walter Kaiser.
    Both these guys have a B.S. Neither guy is well qualified to debate the science. It was a PR event for both. And Ham adds to what the Bible says. Most Christians do not accept his YEC view. http://textsincontext.wordpress.com/2012/05/03/in-the-beginning/
    Here was a recent debate by real scientists.
    http://www.thegreatgoddebate.org/#.UttJFEM6H-g.facebook

  2. Thanks for your reply Michael.

    If all we are going to do is throw around names in scholarship we both would have a bag of ammunition. However, that is not helpful. You most likely have your favorite scholars who support what you want supported, just as I read scholars who support what I think the Bible says. However, apart from the scholars, the Bible is consistent that Genesis teaches a young earth, six day creation. The Ten Commandments teach this in the fourth commandment concerning the Sabbath. Also, Jesus held to the historicity of the book of Genesis concerning Adam and Eve’s marriage union and their murdered son Abel. And Paul holds to a historical reading of Genesis when he discuss imputation and headship in the first man Adam, in Romans 5.

    I would take Moses, Paul, and Jesus over any scholar with any degree.

  3. All of that has no bearing on the age of the earth. The text of Genesis is clearly laid out. Each day begins, “And God said…” with the first day being in verse 3. Read Calvin’s comment with care. And yes, I’d be interested to know what faithful OT scholars you are quoting. See G. Charles Aalders, Genesis, for one of the most erudite, faithful commentaries available.

  4. If you would like to read about this or that scholar, you can check out this article, http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/aid/v2/n1/jesus-and-the-age-of-earth. I would like to say that we should not romanticize the academy. A doctorate does not make someone correct in all things. You are right that each day begins with God speaking, but we also have each day defined by the standard of a day set in verse 5. Each day was a literal day, evening and morning came and went each day. We are also told how old Adam was when he died and Biblical chronology is not an impossible thing. Jesus, in Mark 10:6, makes the statement about the beginning of creation and the marriage that took place. Without going too much longer on this, if we read Genesis 1 in isolation we could certainly have any theory to include millions (I mean billions) of years (Gap Theory, Day-Age Theory, Literary Framework, etc), but Genesis 1 is not in isolation. It is followed by the inspired, inerrant, infallible Word of God. The testimony of Scripture is that creation began with six literal days around 6,000 years ago.

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